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        Cygnals #8 - Summer 1996

 


        Cygnals #9 - Spring 1997

 


        Queen Subway Special, 09-1997

As seen in Infiltration




click thumbnail pic to view. descriptions below.


I was in high school when I saw Mike Nesbitt from City-TV do a story on the Queen St. Cavern. I don’t remember what the occasion was, if there was one. I just wanted to see it. So, using the same connections that got me to Lower Bay, I endeavored to get to this place. It took a lot more bugging, since the place was being occupied by a whole mess of equipment as elevators were installed at the Queen subway. Now that that’s done, I managed to get in.

First, some background. In the 40's, the plan was to build a north-south subway line (the “tube”), and an underground streetcar line, following an alignment under Adelaide, Richmond and Queen streets, with Trinity Bellwoods Park on the west and Logan Avenue on the right. Word is there would have been 13 stations in the underground portion: Trinity Park, Bathurst, Spadina, Grange, York, City Hall, Yonge, Church, Sherbourne, Parliament, Don, Broadview, and Logan.

The proposal was put to Torontonians on New Year’s Day (!) 1946, as part of that year’s municipal election ballot. The question: “Are you in favour of the Toronto Transportation Commission proceeding with the proposed rapid transit system provided the Dominion government assumes one-fifth of the cost and provided that the cost to the ratepayers is limited to such amounts as the City Council may agree are necessary for the replacement and improvement of city services?” It passed, 79,935 to 8,630.

While they had the intersection of Queen and Yonge ripped up to build the main subway line, presumably around 1950, they started to build the streetcar subway. Shortly after they finished a small section, folks realized the heart of the city had moved north, and ideas for a second east-west line moved north to Bloor. The Queen line was abandoned, with the tunnel segment still in the ground.

Since then, Queen station’s been renovated, the Eaton Center has been built, and the city’s grown all around, but that hunk of tunnel was left to be.

Various posts on the Internet describe this as a “station,” though from what I saw, it looks more tunnel than station. I could be wrong.

It’s dark. Really dark. It’s all unfinished concrete — there are no signs, no platforms, no tracks, no overhead wires. It’s just the shell of a station/tunnel. But the pillars down the middle, and the concrete setup on the floor make it blatantly obvious what the tunnel was intended to be. That’s what makes it so cool. There are drains on the floors, pipes coming out of the walls and ceiling and so on. At some point, some 45 or 50 years ago, they were intended to go somewhere. I wonder where they go now, if anywhere.

Overhead, there are sounds of escalator motors and the rumble of the subway. Puddles of water collect on the floor.

The tunnel is terminated at both ends by concrete retaining walls, recently re-built as part of the elevator construction project. A fair chunk of the tunnel has also been taken up with a cinder-block wall, which is the outside of an expanded corridor leading to the elevator. New ductwork, pipes, and wires, have also been added. It’s pretty easy to see what’s new and what’s old. It’s the old part that’s interesting, of course.

Looking up, there’s a hole in the ceiling. Neat. It’s actually a hole in the floor of a maintenance room near the Southbound collectors booth.

Now, one report I’ve read on the Net says “The excavation doesn't just cross under Yonge, though; there is tunnel continuing eastwards. I don't remember the length; maybe 200 feet or so. It ramps upwards, and I think the end of it is covered in wood instead of concrete.” For the record, I didn’t see anything ramping anywhere. It was flat.

For those interested in seeing this marvel....well....you’ll have a hard time. There are a few entrances. Go to the Southbound collectors booth at Queen & Yonge. Go down the stairs near the elevator, the ones to your left that take you under the tracks and to the Northbound side. You’ll find the expanded corridor mentioned above. There are two red doors before you get to the elevator. The cavern is on the other side of those doors. Don’t forget your key. The other option is to fall through the floor in the maintenance room mentioned above. Don’t forget your life insurance premiums.


I asked a couple of prominent TTC people about Lower Queen. Here's what they told me in RealAudio format.

  • Paul Christie, Chairman of the Toronto Transit Commission (106k)
  • David Gunn, Chief General Manager of the TTC (43k)

Looking down the tunnel from the entrance stairs. The wall on the right is new, as are the pipes.
At one end, white spraypaint surrounds some sort of rusty leaky hole, from goodness-knows-where. There's water on the floor, not quite draining into floor drains that don't drain. The fresh retaining wall is here too.
More pipes, holes and floor drains along an edge of the floor. Ladder in BG.
We're looking up. Big heavy beams across the top, and wooden planking too.
Looking down the tunnel from almost floor level at one end. This gives a sense of how really dark it is. The wall and pipes to the left of centre are new. Imagine the tunnel without it.
Turn around, this is the corner. It's really DARK, but the flash shows the retaining wall and some dampness.
Alternate (better?) scan of Queen5
Retaining wall. Again, totally dark 'cept for the flash. The pipes, we're told, are new.
View along "platform," although whether it's really a platform in the transit sense is doubtful, IMHO. Ductwork is all new.
Same, but with ambient lighting. I like this one better.